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Zurich 17 Apr 11

 

Skype with Bhagavan

 

1. You say that our prison, the identification with the mind, has two locks, and that we can open the one on the inside ourselves. Can I do this through awareness or through my personal relationship with the Divine or through both?
If it’s both, isn’t this a contradicition ?
Awareness is, as you teach, inner passivity, non-doing and pure seeing of the facts. But the relationship with God is an inner activity and before we are awakened it is doing and wanting of the self (ego).

Thank you so much for all your love and wisdom you give to us.

Bhagavan:
See, we have all the conscious mind and we have the unconscious mind. Whenever I say that you could put in your own effort and you could set this right and set that right what I mean is, you could put your own effort and solve problems from the conscious part.
Now, when it comes to the unconscious mind, you definitely need a place without which the programs in the unconscious mind cannot be changed.

Astrid: Dear Bhagavan, I’m so sorry we don’t understand you. We want to understand you and we are not able.

Bhagavan: I see, so shall I speak very slowly? And see?

All: Yes.

We have the conscious mind and the unconscious mind.
5% of the problems arise from the conscious mind and 95% of our problems arise from programs what we call the unscious mind.
Where problems emerge from the conscious mind you could apply your own effort and get it solved.
Where problems arise from programs in the unconscious mind, you need definitely grace or what we call deeksha without which those problems cannot be set right.
So for poblems concerning the conscious mind I’m telling you, use your own effort of awareness. But problems concerning the unconscious mind I am telling you depend on grace. That is my answer to your first question. We move on to the second question, now.

2. Whenever you promise us your support, you say « we will help you » or « we will take care of it » or « this is our job » What is the meaning of that « we » ? Does « we » stay for Amma and Bhagavan ? You and a whole bunch of divine beings ? Why do you (almost) never say « I will help you » or « I will be with you » ?

Bhagavan :
I most often use the word « we ». When I use the word « we », it means Amma and Bhagavan. That’s why I keep often using the word « we ». But there are times, but very rarely, I use « I ». So whenever I use « we », it means Amma and Bhagavan.

3. Sri AmmaBhagavan, why do Non-Givers still not arrive to my(our) Deeksha evenings or Awakening courses in Switzerland ? Why do I not function like a magnet ? What can I do ? Is it because of my insensitivity ? Or because I’m not awakened ? Please make me free of the need to do something. Thank you so much.

Bhagavan:
Our wealth, health, relationships, success or failure or whatever happens in our lives are controlled by programs in the unconscious mind. Now, if people are not getting attracted to you, if a sufficient number of people are not coming, it means, there’s some negative program in your consciousness which is creating that dealt. As you keep giving deekshas, very naturally, the negative programs go away. Once the negative programs go away, things in the external world will change. We will certainly help you with that, dont’t worry.

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4. Dearest Bhagavan, you said the quality that Switzerland, once awakened, will carry into the world, is harmony.
In Switzerland we have great difficulties to deal with conflicts, aggression and arguments. We react in a defensive way to these energies.
And especially within the Oneness movement we have to deal with a lot of disharmonies that are going on for years among various changing members. As by nature we are in need of harmony, these disharmonies weaken the Oneness movement in Switzerland instead of giving it more energy.
It seems that individually and collectively we are trapped in the shadow of harmony and seem to misunderstand it. Thank you with my heart.
Would you please help us to understand the difference between true and false harmony? Thank you deeply.

Bhagavan:
The good things which happen in an individual life is because of good programming in his or her unconscious. Similarly, negative events happen in a person’s life, because of the negative programming in an individual’s unconscious. In the same way, whatever happens in a country, depends on the programs in the collective unconscious. If there are positive programs in the unconscious, positive things happen among the people from the country.
If there’s a negative program, negative things happen amongst the people of that country. Now, if we take Switzerland, whatever you are saying, there is some negative programming in the collective unconscious, as also I know, there’s tremendous positive programming in the collective unconscious. So, as you give and receive deekshas, the negative programs would be nullified. That is, there will be no charge. I expect this to happen in Switzerland in the course of a year or so. After that, the most people in Switzerland (...) and Switzerland become (...).
You are going to see that.

5. Dear Bhagavan, when I am watching my negative actions, I feel guilty and fears are arising, that negative karma I am creating, will come back to me in future lives.
How can I deal with these fears?

Bhagavan:
The only way to deal with these fears, is with intense awareness. Awareness is the key to solve all these problems raising from the unconsciousness. We move on to the next question.

6. What we are experiencing in the outer world now – especially our negative experiences – are these experiences the consequences of karma from our past lives, or are they only a reflection of our momentary consciousness?

Bhagavan :
All things that you experience in the present moment is, because of what there is there in the unconscious, the unconscious (…) past memory. And it is past memory which is providing karma. Therefor all things that are happening (…) karma.

7. Dear Bhagavan, how long do we have to wait to overcome the mental barriers of conventional scientists and those who govern us who do not accept that there are new ways of finding solutions to problems? In fact, the quantic physics teach us that the universe can offer unlimited possibilities. My gratitude towards You and Amma is infinite. Thank You!

Bhagavan:
There will be change in all fields of humanity after 2012. So, all you have been thinking about or aspiring for you could see that all in appearance after 2012.
So, we shall come to meditate.

Astrid: Dear Bhagavan, I want to explain you, why the people in the room here did react hardly. We couldn’t understand you because of a technical problem, but we hope to be able to hear you answers later from the recording. And now, we are very happy to meditate with you. Thank you very much Bhagavan!

Bhagavan:
I’m also very very happy to have spent some time with you all. Love you all so much.